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Well,I feel that you can only pump so much blood into something before it pops....
If you forces it, you'll  just damage it even more...you know I'm saying?.... I just feel that if they get desperate,that's when bad cards get me.

the reason beast warriors don't get the support is because they aren't played enough and they are pretty much all beat down monsters anyway so standard beat down support applies as well. the stronger of the beast warriors are beast kin barbaros and machine lord barbaros ur both are used in skill drain decks. Enraged Battle Ox provides piercing for beast warriors in a beatdown deck there is also the very less known Cat's Ear Tribe deck very annoying to face mainly because the original atk of all your monsters that battle it become 200 and this deck is generally run with cards like reverse trap, shrink etc its very anti agro but with cards like blustering winds and ego boost its getting better. apart from these beast warriors generally are added to other decks.

You know that the effect you describe is already the effect of NEO Deadelus! XD.

only different Neo deadelus sends all cards from both players to grave and remains as only card on field^^,but in the end: dude this effect exist already XD.

Youve just proven my point. dont talk to me like im a newb i actually USE neo-deadelus im saying that his effect leaves both players top decking the monster i suggested only effects the opponent any duelist would know the difference. i suppose theres no difference between harpies feather duster and heavy storm? then why if harpies duster was limited would hardly anyone run storm? because it keeps your options but restricts your opponents. to end the effect i put forward does not exist in the deadelous cards

1.No problem i forgive you^^ XD.

2.yea 5new cards are mor then enough:

1.Pyramide like searcher for Levia-archtyp.
2.New Field Spell that can do more then just giving atk-increase and decrease of lv and count as umi,maby some sort of: if this card is send to grave then you can specal summon a levia monster from your Deck,hand,Grave.
3.A lv4 Monster that has the name of Deadelus so you can easy spam neo-Deadelus.
4.Some sort of Counter trap like God-punishment(the trap that works only with Sanchtury in the sky)
5.The Boss monster of the Deck,being more Overpowerd then Neo-Deadelus or being a new Monarch(wich i more believe cause the meaning of Emperor is Monarch...).

technically i suppose the new lv 4 that can class itself as levia dragon deadelus whilst on the field or in the graveyard.(or it could be a lv6 and require 2 water monsters in the graveyard to be removed)

the counter trap could be support like activate when a card on the field would effect cards you control. cards you control are unaffected by card effects until the end of this turn. this card can only be activated whilst you control a monster with Deadelus in its name.

the field spell could be whilst this card is face-up on your field treat it as Umi sea serpents , fish and aqua monsters you control gain 300 ATK & DEF when this card is sent to the graveyard by the effect of Codarus or a monster with DEadelus in its card name add it to your hand during the end phase.

the searcher could be when this card is destroyed by battle special summon 1 Sea serpent from your deck if Umi is face-up on the field special summon Levia Dragon Deadelus instead.

this leaves an opening for a new boss with overpowered effect

Great Leviathon Deadelus
Tribute 2 Deadelus cards you control to special summon this card. this card is unnefected and cannot be targeted by card effects. once per turn send umi you control to the graveyard send all other cards on the field and in each players hand inflict 300 points of damage for each card sent if you activate this effect this card cannot attack this turn ATK 3500 Def 3000


What do you think?

All the stuff you say is possible, but not really worth the effort. What also sucks is this deck doesn't even work with gen fish who are all level 3 and protect themselves. This deck has potentail, but requires alot of recources for nothing game breaking. Maybe this will change when the other cards are revealed, but it's only an interesting deck now, not strong enough to give sea serpants a good name. I also hope for a field because fields hurt other decks that require fields, like grave keeper, dragunity and dark world. Fields also become annoying enogh for your opponent to waste an MST on it, saving your more dangerous cards from destruction.

It can be minuses with the wrong monsters used as the tributes but it can also be pluses with the right ones. Any monster (besides those like Stardust) has the possibility of getting BTH'ed or Warning'ed. Not to mention Ryko can destroy any monster when it's flipped and anyone unprepared can fall prey to the Inzektor combo. So those are implausible points to use against Poseidra.

It doesn't necessarily have to be the only monster on your side of the field. WATER decks have access to 3 copies of Surface and Call of the Haunted is at 3. You might even have a monster or two on your field already with Poseidra. I see Poseidra as an option to go for game by not having to worry about your opponent's back-row if Poseidra's effect goes through. If it doesn't, that's a Solemn or BTH you won't have to worry about.

Don't forget about Poseidra's "If 3 or more cards are returned this way, all monsters your opponent controls lose 300 ATK for each card returned by this effect." That's a possibility of being able to reduce all your opponent's monster's ATK by up to 3000.

All I'm trying to get at is that Poseidra is a decent boss monster. Not all cards can be a Grapha, Hyperion, or have an effect like Neo-Daedalus and be easy to summon/spam. Even if those unrevealed 3 cards falls short of expectations, there's still Abyss Rising to look forward to. (And hope for more support!) Especially since the cover card is a Sea-Serpent itself and "Abyss" being the keyword.

still the artwork looked promising, but i agree they could have given him at least a banish from your graveyard 2 water to get him from graveyard or hand it would have been more playable he just isn't right for a metagame as fast as this one. E.g wind-ups if a wind-up deck loops you on your first turn you may have 3 or even less cards in your hand (one got me top decking before the ban of trish) imagine 3 cards in your hand and you draw poseidra i think he looks cool enough to be sided but never added or just displayed he does not deserve his title neo not only beats windups for hand destruction he messes up decks even normal deadelus can screw up a good combo your opponent has waiting. unless we get a monster that discards itself to give you a plus +3 (3 lv1 water tokens) then your not so bad off but one well played veiler leaves you lack luster beat stick which for 3 tributes should have been beter (considering raviel has a similar summoning condition) this decks last 3 cards have to be broken to make this deck worth it, but even if they are i doubt poseidra will see tournament play...... unless he gets an upgrade like deadelus did with neo and are you listening konami he had better be broken i'm talking makes grapha cry mummy

Hey there's no need to get a bit personal by saying I don't know anything about the game or about the current meta-game, thought we were just having a friendly debate about the usefulness of Poseidra. I'd say my fair share of YGO knowledge is up to date as I currently main Laggia Rabbit and all I see at my locals and regionals are Inzektors, Wind-Ups, and Laggia Rabbits as the Top 3.

I'm going to hold back most of my comments until the last 3 cards are revealed (2 of them for sure being monsters) because maybe it's not just simply trying to use Poseidra as soon as possible, but how you use Poseidra. Nowadays most strategies involves pushing out a single boss monster. Maybe this SD will utilize some sort of strategy around the entire deck theme like how the current Wind-Ups are all about hand destruction/swarm with Hunter, Rat, Shark, Magician, and Zenmaity.

As for why I said it's an option, simply because you don't have to play Poseidra. It's the same matter as every other card out there, If you can find a way to use it then use it, if not then don't. No use trying to find ways to hate it.

Poseidra is a bad boss monster, but still not a bad card. I really don't like how an underated type is stuck with such a boss monster, but all cards have their uses and it's up to a duelist to make cards work right. It is stll a strong late game or final turn card & i am sure someone is currently developing a stategy that reduces cost and is effective like using nimble fish and oyster to maintain field advantage while still bringing this guy out. I am not the biggest fan of Posiedra, but maybe konami didn't make a super powerful card, because when they do, it breaks the game. Dark worlds top & the curtent ban list was heavily influenced by the TG Agent deck and the worst part is that those decks run cheap thanks to the structure decks, which is their core for the deck builds. Maybe a standard not so strong boss monster is smarter than annoying duelist and hurting the format with something to game breaking.

1.Sorry but Psycho is to weak for the current metagame nope i never see anyone playing it on great tournaments like DM or so,so i think you played noobs that do not know how to use insector if you really beat them with that useless deck.

2.Yes i m a player that has a favor for brokeness cause brokeness is the reasion that makes a deck strong or did you ever see any machina before the sd deck?! NO cause until the sd it was not playbel but with the fortress it begin to become badass even abel to beat samurei.

3.Levathain is also a badass monster when you combine it with LADD then it becomes nearly immortal to nearly all card effects and battel,the only cards that cann kill this combo are,dd-crow,veiler,and bth and warning/judgemnt,or some caius but much more is not in metagame that can kill this combo if its played ones succesfully so don t compare this badass combo to a retard monster like poseidra.

4.yes its true neos badass time is over,but the point of me is,that when not even neo(wich is a second Chaos emperor dragon from the effect) can revive the water-themen then a monster like poseidra neither can do this cause its even weaker.

5.sorry dude but not halve the current game can beat insector,or wind up,maby laggia cause it do not have many options,but no insector and wind up making you nearly all firsts turns otk(wind up in so far all first turns if it draws normal) nope dude you talking shit,wind up is way to strong for being beaten by poseidra or psycho not even lightsworn can really get this deck dead,and lightsworn is also better then poseidra and psycho in any case.

6.Sorry dude buts its true all the decks you talking about have getting good support from begin on(frog for itself had become a pure badass support with frog-mirror force and the entire specal summon enegie) so it was clear from begin on that frog would get abused in many decks because it was createt to make the frog-themen metagame.

and no i do not ask myself about i m right or not?,because the metagame proves me by itself that i have right,and only playable decks and cards got success,you telling that this is not the case just proves me again you do not have any idea of the game because you think all a deck needs is creativeness wich is wrong,a deck needs cards like,maxx C.tourguide or rabbit ect ect to become a tier deck in the now know metagame cause if a deck do not have broken badass cards it will not have any chance of winning,samurei shows that as a good exampel it was meta as it first came out because of shogun then theiy createt synchro monster and samurei was getting beaten up by all other decks,then theiy got shi en and it turns out to be the mightys force on the entire metagame togehter with blackwing,cause both decks had badass monsters that verybroken and had a consistent build,that all points that do poseidra not have,and you saying it still can get meta with poseidra just proves you have no idea sorry dude i don t care how many noobs you defeatet but saying that monster that needs 3-specific tributs in the time in wich every deck is getting used to make in the first or second turn atleast one specal summon of a monster that is even stronger then poseidra is,and poseidra not even having a good effect,cause if i look on monster that needs 3tributs for exampel: the god cards,the sacred beast,the avatar monsters,the D-hero blood-D or even his friend Dogma,or the arcana force EX dark and Light,all of those monster are having broken effects that are worthy to make 3tributs for it,and the best part is most of them do not need a specal tribut,no theiy just need 3monsters(even tokens are counting for most of them) but poseidra neighter have a comparable effect that is the 3-minus worth nor do it have good atk points or summoing conditions no,its just as wortless as like nearly all tribut monster from the old time or no wait we have monarchs theiy just need 1tribut and making in most of the case 1+ or just field controll so why we need poseidra?o.O wich is just a trunade with atk and a atk reducing effect that needs 3monster to get summon nope,not worth the entire effort,but like i say,you call yourself a good player because you beat some random people,and you still think that a monster that has only weaknesses and not really a strong effect can get meta with some support....showing me that you just talking more not,you have no idea of the game dude,sorry but every good player i know would just laugh at you if you tell them that poseidra is going metagame and beats insecort and wind up and laggia a part.(just image poseidra first turn out and then Boom hornet and then you cry like a litte baby that poseidra is going ripped by insecort and any other deck)haha like to see that^^.

Okay look. You said it yourself, three tribute monsters should be pretty broken. And i agree there. But what deck uses a three tribute monster in todays metagame? Oh right... none. Thats because Poseidra is the first of its kind: The first to use the tributing cost to its advantage. Lets just analyze previous 'meta' bosses.

If Agents didn't have Earth or Jupiter, Hyperion would be such a weaker boss than it is.
If Six Samurai did not have Kageki or Elder... Shi En would not be a broken card, as it would be difficult to get out easily.
If Gladiator Beasts did not have Darius... Heraklinos would be just as hard to get out, if not harder.

All of the above decks have their bosses abuse the core cards, and that exactly is what poseidra is going to do. It serves as a trigger for their effects, destroying 3 cards as well as summoning a boss? Sure i'll take that. Poseidra is allowing for the mass abuse of the 2 or more Sea Emperor monsters that work when tributed. Lets just envision this: Tribute 2 Armed Solider and 1 Sniper, you destroy 3 cards, then summon 2800 boss. This deck seems to be building up to a sorta Inzektor-like field management, just you destroy all at once instead of once at a time. The only issue i see at the moment is that the deck lacks ATK/DEF power in its core monsters, sniper is only 1400 ATK after all, it wont be winning many battles.


Anyways, i cant wait to try out these new WATER guys once they hit DN, as of now i'm proxying them and it is working out so well, and that was before Sniper was revealed :D

I already said that Posiedra would not make meta game, I just said it has potential. So please state where i said that it would make meta and beat wind-up Inzektor or Lagia? Do you win all of your arguments by putting your words in others mouths and attacking that false info you provided. Whats worst is that you still mock my skill by claiming I beat noobs. It's sad that you only believe expensive and top tier cards can win matches. Yes Psychics are weak, but it didn't stop me from stomping out Lightsworns, X-sabres and Six Samurai. I made a strong build with the ability to keep up defence when I am in trouble, while allowing me to counter with fast pace synchro summoning and bouncing cards to get around certain cards like stardust and Shi en.

Next Frogs were not meant to be abused and created as meta game material, just
because they can special summon and have a mirror force. Koa'ki Miru also had a
mirror force and special summon potential, but that didn't make them a strong deck.
Also Machina was not used to my knowledge before the SD... mainly because I live in
the states and Machina's first appearance was with the release of the SD along
Fortress, so that is how it has been used for as long as I can remember, since their
TCG appearance.

Even the way you figure people will use Posiedra just shows that you have no clue how to use it. Who would use it's SS ability first turn? Posiedra is obviously a late
game card and used to clear the back row, for a potential win or to reduce the
amount of monsters your opponent controls with it's reducing effect, so that the
opponent have to top deck their way into a good monster. Whats funny is that you
said that Posiedra is bad for it's specific tributes and compares it to other 3 tribute
cards like Dogma, which requires a destiny hero to summon. You also mention the
sacred beast, which one needs three continues trap cards, one needs three continues spell cards and one needs three dark-fiend type monsters... yeah! Great way to back up your argument.

Truth is you sound like you can only win with strong cards, because you have no
ability to wield cards as you need be. Yes Inzektor wind-ups are nearly invincible,
everyone knows that, so stop using that as your only base for everything. You can argue with me all you want and be as rude as you want, but you just
sound like you have no duel ability with out the use of a broken card. You write a wall of text full of garbage and baseless accusations, just to put down a structure deck with only eight cards revealed. The SD can be how JockerGalaxy revealed and it's plays work with deck synergy instead of a single card as the focal point. I pity you if you cant even respect when some one tries to find a way to make cards work, instead of just popping up and saying it's all pointless, because nothing can beat wind-ups and questioning their potential as a duelist. If nothing new is made or no one finds a way to be creative with cards, than the game will never progress and inzector-wind up will stay on top.

I am done with you questioning me as a duelist because I can find potential in cards
that you cant,or even claim I can only win if my opponents are inexperienced. The
fact that I can think outside the box and don't just rely on a bed of broken cards
shows I have an idea of how the game works.

I am done with this Poseidra battle and rather wait for the deck to be revealed and see what it has to offer, because this fight is stupid, if we don't even know how the deck functions and it's a waste of my time to just read walls of text describing what I already know about the current meta-game.

1."potential" thats the point,why shall i care about a card that has "Potential" if this card is even with support just freaking Bad as hell,sorry but if it do not hit the meta then its just crap,i mean for waht do i need a card that do not get me the WIN?!,right i do not need somthing like that,and thats the point why i think you are not a good player because you say it do have potential and i think you mention that because you think with this potential it can hit the meta or anythign else.

2.Lightsworn is no longer meta its just a good deck more not,the same counts for samurei and X-saber,both are to slow for the actuall game,and i really don t can think of any good duellist loosing with lightsworn or samurei or x-saber to a Psychic deck,i m sure i can beat this shit without getting problems.

3.so far i know theiy was meant for that,because theiy wantet to make the deck good and playbable because many people wished for it,and so it happens,then theiy got abused because theiy became good support.

4.Koa ik meiru is meant for support,theiy do not work with each other,its a
support-other decks-themen.

5.As i was expecting because the deck gives them the support theiy needed unlike Poseidra.

6.Maby for finishing the opponenst?o.O,lol serously that show s youre a bad duellist,because after 6turns poseidras deck is already dead against any good deck i mean serously all decks in this time do have many goods cards and if you can t do against them anything in the first 6turns then you finished so poseidra is useless like i say.

7.My point was clearly sayed,that Dogam has a worty effect for his 3tributs and can use 2tokens for its summon and have more atk so he do have more power and use for his 3tributs that was the point,and the sacred beast are the same,if i sacrife 3traps and then summon Uria my opponenst can not activate bth or warning or anything else in response to that,so i get a monster that can have 6000atk and more,and can destroy the spell/traps of my opponenst without giving the opponenst the ability to response,and Hamorn also is broken with 4000atk and the Crystals Beast out its very easy to summon harmon and then finish the opponenst with 4000atk plus 1000extra damage serously thats worthy his sacrife.

8.Just like i say: brokeness is the reasion for any deck becoming tier 1 or even top tier,wich basically mean you need broken cards,and serously dude i even played duellist that use insector or Macro or any other broken deck like rabbit usw,but if theiy do not have the ability to use this deck the right way then even the broken insector is just useless shit,so yes i have many duell expericene i play from the first day on the games was coming to m country,and i was the first one in my City playing BTH and Sakuretsu Armor in one deck,and had a Jinzo wich was really good at that time,i also played some Monarch like Zarborg and Mobius and i played Cyber dragon,and i often Won with this deck,and as Lightsworn came out i played lightsworn and was winning often,oh and some times i played a macro with Exil force also worked fine,and i was playing on a tournamnt the Magican deck with Endymion and was the Winner,so yes i do test decks that for REAL have the chance of winning a tournament,but poseidra is to bad for that,and i also played ond DN against a Macro deck and i was Playing DARK WORLD against Macro!,and i still was winning,cause my opponenst was not really smart in playing,wich proves my point that even with the better deck you have know HOW to use it?,so your point i can only win with broken cards is wrong,cause it needs a good duellist to use a Broken card,so both is needed not the duellist or the card no BOTH.

8.I do let everyone think waht he wants,but to be realistic the deck do not have the ability to become meta so its not worty to pay somthing for it....and 2more supports will not chance that,and yes its true when people do not create new decks then no new deck will hit the tops until Konami gives us more broken cards,but thats not the point,the point is,that i do not understand why Konami creat useless cards that do not win any tournament,and paying for a deck that can not win is like paying 2000$ for a Ojama Deck cause some dude say: it has "potential",and the he did it and wonder itself why he did not win against so many badass decks.

And again: you do not have to pity me,if someone finds a way for this deck to work then fine,but i dón t think that will happen,i m just realistic.

*yawn* Sorry but all your talk Just about needing better cards is to win is plain tiring and pathetic. With the new priority rulres as well, wind-up inzectors are not even going to be on top soon. If you cant weild the deck, then someone will. Praise the meta game all you like, but someone always unexpectedly breaks the mold of the game & they can do it because they notice potential and strategy, they dont just take a broken card an play it like everyone else.

but i still think poseidra is not needed serously,all this support cards are working better in a deck that do not have a poseidra as Boss monster,cause you could make much synchro summon or xyz with that but poseidra want you to sacrife them all making it still useless,nope i don t see the point of playing poseidra even with this awesome support cards it still would make more sense to play a pure xyz/synchro water deck then playing it all down for poseidra.

i don't sea poseidra as a boss monster its more of solemn/b-trap hole/ veiler fodder really i've designed a deck that runs him, but he is in no respect the boss it is mainly a numbers Xyz deck with synchro synergy (after all 3 divas alone allow this never mind the fishborg launcher im planning to add when it comes out in the tcg) the boss monster it neo-deadelus mainly because they have synergy together if they don't stop poseidra they aren't stopping neo with that solemn that's now in their hand. i agree the support is awesome and yes poseidra is no boss for the deck doesn't mean to say heys useless if i remember correctly he requires tributes not sending, hello oyster meister you can depth charge a monster draw a card get a free token and then you only need 2 for poseidra (which is what you would need to tribute summon him anyway) and i usually ditch him to the grave with nimble sunfish anyway so no hand loss.

like i said he is usually i once every few duels thing just to make sure my final push goes through perfectly. However if a better card comes out (looks at abyss rising) he will be replaced.