New Japanese Banned and Restriction List
Effective from 1st March 2008
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Manjyome Thunder - 18. Feb, 07:48
ryoto_kai - 18. Feb, 09:06
What im gonna say
1.Breaker T_T -How many times the banned and unbanned this
2.Faith T_T -How many times the banned and unbanned this
3.Monster Reborn Yay!! -good for spellcasters
4.Call of Haunted WTH!! Call of haunted is not that good y banned?? (jinzo?)
5.no more Cyber End ^^ -good thing i didnt make cyber deck
6.Noblman Cross out YAY!! Rock monster and spellcasters worst enemy!!
7.Advance RItual Art okay... no more Demise + Bulldozer + Megamorph
8.Light and Darkness T_T he was kinda good even though i dont use dragons but its only semi limited
9.Foolish Burial & Magical stone excavation Speechless
10.Mage Power and book of moon YAY!! Brings peace
11.Gadgets and Apprentice CHAIN X3!!!!
12.Jinzo!!! (no one is that stupid to put 3)
13.Pot of Averice and Reckless Greed Worthless
Oh yeah I forgot the thing that i've been waiting for so long!!
BYE BYE RAIZA YAAAAYYYYY!!!! RAIZA LIMITED FINALLY!!!
2.Faith T_T -How many times the banned and unbanned this
3.Monster Reborn Yay!! -good for spellcasters
4.Call of Haunted WTH!! Call of haunted is not that good y banned?? (jinzo?)
5.no more Cyber End ^^ -good thing i didnt make cyber deck
6.Noblman Cross out YAY!! Rock monster and spellcasters worst enemy!!
7.Advance RItual Art okay... no more Demise + Bulldozer + Megamorph
8.Light and Darkness T_T he was kinda good even though i dont use dragons but its only semi limited
9.Foolish Burial & Magical stone excavation Speechless
10.Mage Power and book of moon YAY!! Brings peace
11.Gadgets and Apprentice CHAIN X3!!!!
12.Jinzo!!! (no one is that stupid to put 3)
13.Pot of Averice and Reckless Greed Worthless
Oh yeah I forgot the thing that i've been waiting for so long!!
BYE BYE RAIZA YAAAAYYYYY!!!! RAIZA LIMITED FINALLY!!!
pizzaman - 18. Feb, 09:50
lol
Funny how they leave Arms Hole and DDR untouched.
It's probably because they are currently OCG only right?
It's probably because they are currently OCG only right?
Kureiju - 18. Feb, 11:52
Kureiju's rant
Aiya! This is the new list?! Where do I begin?
1. Saint Magician
This is the one card that does not need to been banned. Yes, you get to reuse spells after the flip effect occurs, but overall, traps have more power. To this day, there's no spell card that negates traps, though there is a trap that negates (most of) its fellow traps.
2. Breaker
I like this card, but yeah, it's a bit too powerful. However, sooner or later, Dark Valkyria will have to be semi-limited at least.
3. Call of the Haunted
Konami, you have to be kidding. Though you get a monster back, you do realize that outside of Jinzo, you have to remove that card to destroy the monster, right? Why even bother banning it? Do I have to ask the Japanese public to get my answer?
4. Raiza
Initially, I thought this was a horrible card, but the more I studied it, the more I realized how powerful the card can be. So, yeah, this will kill my deck, though I can take it.
5. Advanced Ritual Art
Generally, I prefer rituals over fusions, but this is a very good move. I can't stand Demise despite the cost.
6. Monster Reborn
I don't know. From a child's perspective, this is a very good thing, but I'm not 17 anymore. While you can get your most powerful monster back for the most part, so can your opponent, which I don't like. (Generally, I love using spells, but this is one spell I have a love-hate relationship with.) Also, this move really doesn't force people to use alternatives.
7. Nobleman of Crossout
I actually like this move. There are people that love playing fast. I prefer to set up and play slow. This at least gives people like myself a chance.
8. Ojama Trio
This can be an irritating card, which is why I'm glad it's restricted. There are not many ways to get around this card.
9. Cyber Dragon
This puts Cyber Dragon decks and highly aggressive decks in a bind, especially if one runs Cyber End Dragon. That's alright. My main deck has only 2 anyway.
10. Necroface
Not only does it have the potential to be powerful by itself, it has a nasty after-effect, which is why it needs to be at 2. This, I like.
11. Light and Darkness Dragon
I prefer if this is actually limited. There are a lot of tasks you can do with this card, which is not funny. Still, this is a start.
12. Book of Moon
Just when Saint Magician is banned, I get this at 2?! Oh well. At least this takes care of many irritating decks. (Time to buy Shou's deck.)
13. Foolish Burial
I like this move also. It slows down decks involving Dark Necrofear and other monsters that require the graveyard.
14. Magical Stone Excavation
Heavy cost, but I guess it's worth the bump to two, though there's the point above. At least my friend will be more enthusiastic to pick up two.
15. Mage Power
Not the best move, but I've seen worse. (Look at the way beginning.)
16. Apprentice Magician
Yay! I like this move! Field presence and counters! Too bad Japan still has Dark Valkyria only though.
17. Gadgets
At least it'll make one of my brothers happy. He loves playing with the Gadgets.
18. Jinzo
It's already a love/hate thing at 2. It's worse at 3. This doesn't force people to use alternatives.
19. Pot of Avarice
Yes, you get to draw two cards, but this actually hurts a good amount of decks and it's not a good card until the middle or late part of a duel. Oh well. At most, I'd only run 2 anyway.
20. Creature Swap
This is not a good move overall. It was good at 2. It doesn't need to be bumped up to 3. While I can give my opponent Apprentice, the person can do the same, which I don't need.
21. Reckless Greed
The chances of having all three on the field or even two are little, but when they add up, you still only skip two turns. This is better off at only 2.
Some of the tasks that needs to be done in September?
Ban:
Grand Mole (Only traps can stop it and it doesn't help that even fewer spells can stop it as well. Don't get me started on monster effects.)
Snipe Hunter (Though you discard, it's way too easy to not get 1 or 6. If you are forced to roll only one of three numbers however, then it should be limited.)
Monster Reborn
Limit:
Breaker
Caius (Can you say "The most broken emperor"?)
Dark Armed Dragon
Demise
Saint Magician
Arms Hole
Bell of Destruction
Call of the Haunted
Semi-limit:
Dark Valkyria (Limited works too.)
Creature Swap
D-Draw
Dimensional Prison
Reckless Greed
Secret Barrel
Unlimit:
Nothing at the top of my head.
Again, I haven't listed every task Konami should do. This should be a base. Nothing more.
1. Saint Magician
This is the one card that does not need to been banned. Yes, you get to reuse spells after the flip effect occurs, but overall, traps have more power. To this day, there's no spell card that negates traps, though there is a trap that negates (most of) its fellow traps.
2. Breaker
I like this card, but yeah, it's a bit too powerful. However, sooner or later, Dark Valkyria will have to be semi-limited at least.
3. Call of the Haunted
Konami, you have to be kidding. Though you get a monster back, you do realize that outside of Jinzo, you have to remove that card to destroy the monster, right? Why even bother banning it? Do I have to ask the Japanese public to get my answer?
4. Raiza
Initially, I thought this was a horrible card, but the more I studied it, the more I realized how powerful the card can be. So, yeah, this will kill my deck, though I can take it.
5. Advanced Ritual Art
Generally, I prefer rituals over fusions, but this is a very good move. I can't stand Demise despite the cost.
6. Monster Reborn
I don't know. From a child's perspective, this is a very good thing, but I'm not 17 anymore. While you can get your most powerful monster back for the most part, so can your opponent, which I don't like. (Generally, I love using spells, but this is one spell I have a love-hate relationship with.) Also, this move really doesn't force people to use alternatives.
7. Nobleman of Crossout
I actually like this move. There are people that love playing fast. I prefer to set up and play slow. This at least gives people like myself a chance.
8. Ojama Trio
This can be an irritating card, which is why I'm glad it's restricted. There are not many ways to get around this card.
9. Cyber Dragon
This puts Cyber Dragon decks and highly aggressive decks in a bind, especially if one runs Cyber End Dragon. That's alright. My main deck has only 2 anyway.
10. Necroface
Not only does it have the potential to be powerful by itself, it has a nasty after-effect, which is why it needs to be at 2. This, I like.
11. Light and Darkness Dragon
I prefer if this is actually limited. There are a lot of tasks you can do with this card, which is not funny. Still, this is a start.
12. Book of Moon
Just when Saint Magician is banned, I get this at 2?! Oh well. At least this takes care of many irritating decks. (Time to buy Shou's deck.)
13. Foolish Burial
I like this move also. It slows down decks involving Dark Necrofear and other monsters that require the graveyard.
14. Magical Stone Excavation
Heavy cost, but I guess it's worth the bump to two, though there's the point above. At least my friend will be more enthusiastic to pick up two.
15. Mage Power
Not the best move, but I've seen worse. (Look at the way beginning.)
16. Apprentice Magician
Yay! I like this move! Field presence and counters! Too bad Japan still has Dark Valkyria only though.
17. Gadgets
At least it'll make one of my brothers happy. He loves playing with the Gadgets.
18. Jinzo
It's already a love/hate thing at 2. It's worse at 3. This doesn't force people to use alternatives.
19. Pot of Avarice
Yes, you get to draw two cards, but this actually hurts a good amount of decks and it's not a good card until the middle or late part of a duel. Oh well. At most, I'd only run 2 anyway.
20. Creature Swap
This is not a good move overall. It was good at 2. It doesn't need to be bumped up to 3. While I can give my opponent Apprentice, the person can do the same, which I don't need.
21. Reckless Greed
The chances of having all three on the field or even two are little, but when they add up, you still only skip two turns. This is better off at only 2.
Some of the tasks that needs to be done in September?
Ban:
Grand Mole (Only traps can stop it and it doesn't help that even fewer spells can stop it as well. Don't get me started on monster effects.)
Snipe Hunter (Though you discard, it's way too easy to not get 1 or 6. If you are forced to roll only one of three numbers however, then it should be limited.)
Monster Reborn
Limit:
Breaker
Caius (Can you say "The most broken emperor"?)
Dark Armed Dragon
Demise
Saint Magician
Arms Hole
Bell of Destruction
Call of the Haunted
Semi-limit:
Dark Valkyria (Limited works too.)
Creature Swap
D-Draw
Dimensional Prison
Reckless Greed
Secret Barrel
Unlimit:
Nothing at the top of my head.
Again, I haven't listed every task Konami should do. This should be a base. Nothing more.
pizzaman - 19. Feb, 02:24
Ok
After seeing your post it made me realize that they could've just limited Demise, and not touch Advanced Ritual Art at all.
After all, Demise was the only OTK-able ritual monster, and you need to use crappy vanilla monsters in your deck if you want to use Adv. Ritual Art (which is like a "deck limiter" or so to speak.)
After all, Demise was the only OTK-able ritual monster, and you need to use crappy vanilla monsters in your deck if you want to use Adv. Ritual Art (which is like a "deck limiter" or so to speak.)
Kureiju - 19. Feb, 16:29
That Demise.
Actually, yeah, they could have done that. I think rituals are now a little less playable.
cybergx - 18. Feb, 20:38
Wait, What?
Monster Reborn is limited?????????
What the hell?
Light and Darkness deserved its limitation, and so did Raiza. But Breaker AND Magician of Faith banned again. Breakerdoesnt deserve it. Monster Reborn is crazy though, it is a very good card. Are they crazy or what? (Im not mad about Reborn back, but it is VERY powerful)
What the hell?
Light and Darkness deserved its limitation, and so did Raiza. But Breaker AND Magician of Faith banned again. Breakerdoesnt deserve it. Monster Reborn is crazy though, it is a very good card. Are they crazy or what? (Im not mad about Reborn back, but it is VERY powerful)
DoubleU - 19. Feb, 01:49
My goodness
Ok first off I have to say it
*Sad my Dark Remove deck took a blow~ ;_; No more 1 card 15500 lp gain. Now it's only 10500 *Currr!!!* My dark removal deck took a couple hits but meh. The only cards I care about in that deck are Yuberu and Rainbow Dark, the rest i'll work around. but man...they finally limited Necroface to 2 per deck...after all my complaining they FINALLY make him 3 per deck now that I start using them...man
okay, Raiza, good. Horus still exists but at this point I'm going to assume Horus will never go anywhere. Raiza is arguably the best Monarch since the Dark Monarch is just a really s00ped up Zaborg.
3 Jinzo's not surprising but cool.
2 CYBER DRAGONS!...wow. My poor friend, who only runs 1 deck and it's Hell Kaiser's Light/Dark Dragon/Cyber deck
Now that it's taken a blow, we're gonna have to take Cyber end off Manjyome's header ^_^ Just kidding. Metamorph is back jsut when they put Metal Reflect Slime into english. Coincidence? Oh well... now Exodios the Forbidden God has a 1 in 40 chance of being more useful in my deck then just a really really useful special summon. Hey look, I get all my monsters back AND I get Cyber End, win frickin win baby.
Anyone who says Breaker is overpowered is drunk. If he got 2 counters when he was summoned, then he'd defintily be 1 per deck material but he still wouldn't be worth banning
and they're banning the anti-monster reborn for...Monster Reborn. O_o hwa!? that was the 2nd biggest shocker in this entire banned list. Monster Reborn which is the single most rule breaking card in the GAME!
Oh look Chaos Emperor Dragon is in the grave, as well as 5 God Dragon. I think I'll Monster Reborn them.
But they say they can't be special summoned except by "Blah"
Yes, "blah"...AND ....Monster Reborn. ^_^
Wow. Premat has the exact same wording as Monster Reborn, but you can't Pre-mat out a Horus lv 8 or a RAINBOW DRAGON! but you sure can Monster Reborn 1 out. I don't usually run a res from the grave card in my Gem Beast deck but I sure as hell will run Monster Reborn. Get out a Hamon or Rainbow Dragon with an off chance of Sapphire Pegasus. YES SIR.
3 Gadgets again, ooooh joy..... *rolls eyes*
Oh well...1 of the most surprising banlists in a long time.
*Sad my Dark Remove deck took a blow~ ;_; No more 1 card 15500 lp gain. Now it's only 10500 *Currr!!!* My dark removal deck took a couple hits but meh. The only cards I care about in that deck are Yuberu and Rainbow Dark, the rest i'll work around. but man...they finally limited Necroface to 2 per deck...after all my complaining they FINALLY make him 3 per deck now that I start using them...man
okay, Raiza, good. Horus still exists but at this point I'm going to assume Horus will never go anywhere. Raiza is arguably the best Monarch since the Dark Monarch is just a really s00ped up Zaborg.
3 Jinzo's not surprising but cool.
2 CYBER DRAGONS!...wow. My poor friend, who only runs 1 deck and it's Hell Kaiser's Light/Dark Dragon/Cyber deck
Now that it's taken a blow, we're gonna have to take Cyber end off Manjyome's header ^_^ Just kidding. Metamorph is back jsut when they put Metal Reflect Slime into english. Coincidence? Oh well... now Exodios the Forbidden God has a 1 in 40 chance of being more useful in my deck then just a really really useful special summon. Hey look, I get all my monsters back AND I get Cyber End, win frickin win baby.
Anyone who says Breaker is overpowered is drunk. If he got 2 counters when he was summoned, then he'd defintily be 1 per deck material but he still wouldn't be worth banning
and they're banning the anti-monster reborn for...Monster Reborn. O_o hwa!? that was the 2nd biggest shocker in this entire banned list. Monster Reborn which is the single most rule breaking card in the GAME!
Oh look Chaos Emperor Dragon is in the grave, as well as 5 God Dragon. I think I'll Monster Reborn them.
But they say they can't be special summoned except by "Blah"
Yes, "blah"...AND ....Monster Reborn. ^_^
Wow. Premat has the exact same wording as Monster Reborn, but you can't Pre-mat out a Horus lv 8 or a RAINBOW DRAGON! but you sure can Monster Reborn 1 out. I don't usually run a res from the grave card in my Gem Beast deck but I sure as hell will run Monster Reborn. Get out a Hamon or Rainbow Dragon with an off chance of Sapphire Pegasus. YES SIR.
3 Gadgets again, ooooh joy..... *rolls eyes*
Oh well...1 of the most surprising banlists in a long time.
xeonx - 2. Mar, 06:27
speechless
call of the haunted cyber dragon gone shame...
Doomfire - 5. Mar, 17:15
many people tend to forget that the ban list is made for people playing in japan. the type of decks people use in japan is different. that's why i laugh when a ban list comes out and everyone raises an eyebrow at it wondering why certain cards are banned. it is because different cards are abused in japan than in america
call of the haunted now ban?
darn...
wth is going on?